For the first time in over two months, I'm seeing some new TOU data posted to the HydroOne web portal. But not all of the missing data is there. There's no data at all for the time period of Dec 17 to Jan 10, and nothing after Jan 18 yet. There's no way of knowing whether this data will eventually be available, or if the data loss is permanent.
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Saturday, February 18, 2012
TOU Data Returns
For the first time in over two months, I'm seeing some new TOU data posted to the HydroOne web portal. But not all of the missing data is there. There's no data at all for the time period of Dec 17 to Jan 10, and nothing after Jan 18 yet. There's no way of knowing whether this data will eventually be available, or if the data loss is permanent.
Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Hydro bills you at off-peak rate if TOU data missing
I got my first bill since TOU data stopped being available on the Hydro One web portal. My smart meter is still not sending data out. Hydro has confirmed that this is not an isolated problem in my area. Might be related to the recent roll-out of wireless internet in my area, perhaps on the same frequency that the smart meters out. I understand that the meter is only supposed to hold 30 days of data, so if it hasn't been downloaded, it's likely gone forever.
So, if you have a smart meter, and the meter data is ever not available for some reason, Hydro will estimate your bill since they can't read it remotely, and they don't have meter reading staff anymore. And they bill the entire missing data period at the off-peak rate.
I don't have the opportunity to enter my own meter readings anymore, since smart meters were supposed to make that obsolete. So I will have to start reading my own meter again to make sure I'm not being ripped off. Note the bill above does not mention any beginning and ending meter readings for the billing period, which is technically a Measurement Canada requirement.
Monday, June 6, 2011
Hydro One's Retail Contract Tool
Unlike the Hydro Ottawa portal's contract comparison tool, Hydro One's adds the cost of the Global Adjustment to the graph. The correct amount of Global Adjustment is automatically chosen for you, so all you have to do is input the contract rate from the third party electricity provider. In this case, I would have to find a retail contract for 2.84 cents per kWh to break even with the time-of-use rate equivalent.
Thursday, June 2, 2011
A Tour of Hydro Ottawa's TOU Portal
Hydro Ottawa is slowly and finally starting to roll out TOU to its customers now, and here is a sneak peek at what their Internet portal looks like. (Click on the images for a larger view).
In the upper right corner of each data page, are buttons to print, or download the displayed data in Excel or PDF formats. This allows the customer to store long term data or run other analysis.
The home page shows some quick overview graphs, including the last recorded day's usage.
The hourly page shows an hour-by-hour view of electricity usage, color coded to match the off, mid, and on-peak periods. The high contrast option, turns all the graphs into an unpleasant black and white scheme, which must be an accessibility function.
The daily graph shows a summary of each day's electricity consumption, along with user selectable total daily cost or consumption.
Much like the daily graph, the monthly graph shows each calendar month's total data.
The billing period graph shows a breakdown of usage for the period covered by any of your previous bills. You can compare one month to the other using the drop down boxes above the graph.
The TOU calculator is interesting, as it allows the customer to use the mouse and pull the three bars up and down to play "what-if" scenarios, then shows the results on the right hand side.

The tiered-vs-TOU page allows you to see what you would pay under the old regulated price plan, vs. Time-of-Use, vs. any arbitrary third party contract. This customer, as an example, is paying slightly more under TOU than the old regulated price plan. If an option becomes available in the future for customers to opt in or out of TOU rates, this page is a valuable tool to determine which is the better deal.
The blue bar showing the value of a third party contract entered at 8.0 cents/kWh does NOT include the Global Adjustment, which is currently running 4.3 cents/kWh!
In the upper right corner of each data page, are buttons to print, or download the displayed data in Excel or PDF formats. This allows the customer to store long term data or run other analysis.







The tiered-vs-TOU page allows you to see what you would pay under the old regulated price plan, vs. Time-of-Use, vs. any arbitrary third party contract. This customer, as an example, is paying slightly more under TOU than the old regulated price plan. If an option becomes available in the future for customers to opt in or out of TOU rates, this page is a valuable tool to determine which is the better deal.
The blue bar showing the value of a third party contract entered at 8.0 cents/kWh does NOT include the Global Adjustment, which is currently running 4.3 cents/kWh!
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Always a day behind
So far, the Hydro One Time-of-Use Portal data is still one day behind, every day. I have to start keeping a journal of what I've done because I can't remember what I did the day before yesterday.
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
Dryer deathmatch - electric vs. natural gas

Before we can determine which energy source is better and by how much, we need to first figure out how much energy does it take to dry a typical load of laundry? We can't use a plug-in type meter on a dryer because there aren't any for 220V loads, but we don't need one because the Hydro web portal gives us that information.
Let's take another look at a laundry day in the graph. On this particular day, my wife starts the dryer just before taking the kids to school. Then again later in the afternoon at 2pm, and finally in the evening around 7pm. Notice here is that it takes about 4kWh to dry a load of laundry. Your consumption per load might vary depending on things like the ability of the washer to extract water from clothes, the size of the dryer, the amount and type of clothes dried per load, how plugged the lint filter and dryer vent are, etc. It's going to take more energy to dry a load of towels and jeans than it would for some socks and t-shirts. Regardless, the outcome of this exercise will allow us to see the order of magnitude of savings, and then consider the cost of procuring and installing a gas dryer over the electric one currently in service.
To make this fair, a spreadsheet was used to break out the true cost of energy and exclude the fixed monthly customer charge from each utility, since that amount is not affected by the amount of energy consumed. The spreadsheet allows us to run various scenarios depending on how many loads are dried in a week. The average TOU line gives a rough idea of what it would cost to dry clothes if dryer use is somewhat random during waking hours.

Now let's consider the cost of a new gas dryer, supposing the old one has reached it's end of life and a new one must be purchased anyway. Most gas dryers carry a $50 cost premium over the electric model. A 120V receptacle needs to be installed for the gas dryer, since the electric one uses 240V. An electrician can do this work for something in the order of $200 unless you are able to do it yourself or there is a spare receptacle nearby. And a gas fitter must run a new gas line to the dryer location. Count on $350 to $500 for this work depending on length and difficulty to install. Let's assume your venting is already metal and suitable to vent the lint, moisture, and products of combustion. So total cost premium for gas is in the order of $550 to 750. At a savings of $143 to $188 mentioned above, payback for this is three to five years. This payback will decline rapidly if electricity prices continue to rise rapidly, or you can get the work done cheaply.
So the bottom line is that gas wins, but only if there is a lot of dirty laundry. With smaller laundry demands, electricity, despite the painfully difficult to swallow electricity prices, may still be the better option for you.
Or just put up a clothesline and fight the relentless rain and birds. Hmmm. Maybe $200+ a year to dry clothes worth thousands of dollars isn't such a bad idea after all.
Saturday, April 30, 2011
The cost of careless dryer use

If I download this data in Excel format, which the HydroOne portal offers, I can rearrange the numbers to see the result of different scenarios. Let's suppose the three dryer runs had all been done during off-peak instead. The savings amount to about 53¢. Repeating this "mistake" every week would cost us an additional $27 per year.
Doesn't seem like much to one person, but consider the impact if everyone in Ontario ran their dryer like this. How many more powerplants, windmills, or solar panels do we need?
Next we will explore the savings of gas dryers vs. electric.
Friday, April 22, 2011
$ and ¢ - Saving with TOU

One of the huge challenges with Energy Management and saving money is that it takes a long time to see results. Saving 10¢ a day doesn't sound like much, but multiply it by 365 days a year and it totals $36.50, which is 3% of a $1200 annual electricity bill. If I told a commercial client they could reduce their annual electric bill by 3%, I think they would be interested in hearing more. Unfortunately, these graphs do not put that into perspective.
Wednesday, April 20, 2011
TOU Rates are here - for me, again, that is.

After moving last June, I've missed being able to see my daily and hourly consumption trends that I had at my previous home. Now, I have this data again as Hydro One continues their province-wide roll out of TOU rates to those customers that are within reach of data collection points.
I've been anxious to see what my night time base load is, what with even more electronic devices in a larger home. So far, looks like I'm at around 260 to 350 watts. Not much worse than my previous home which was around 200, especially considering we added a chest freezer, but I definitely think there is room for improvement.
Monday, January 31, 2011
OEB Consultation on Time Of Use Rates
Not to steal any thunder from the massive storm surrounding UBB, but I thought you should all be aware of the other pending Ontario rip-off. The Ontario Energy Board has undertaken a consultation process to determine if changes need to be made to the time-of-use rate structure for electricity so that some of the Board's and the Government's goals can actually be accomplished. They started by having some consultant write a report about it, then asked for comments. BOY, did they get comments! Here are the highlights:
Advocacy Centre for Tenants Ontario: The Board should not proceed with the roll-out of TOU pricing to low-income customers before a comprehensive examination of this vulnerable sector’s energy use characteristics and the most effective ways to reduce their energy use without putting these individuals in financial or physical risk
Consumers Council of Canada: Moving all of the solar and wind costs, for example, to peak is not consistent with how those resources are run. The Council is concerned that arbitrarily increasing the peak price would unfairly increase the cost burden for those that cannot shift their load.
Direct Energy: To successfully implement time of use pricing and achieve targeted demand reduction goals, Ontario must first, integrate all generation costs into the wholesale price, and then, match the time of use cost with individual consumer loads....Without such a reform, time of use rate setting will not be able to fairly allocate the costs of peaking generation to peaking consumption; exacerbating existing consumer inequities and making the Board’s mission to guarantee just and reasonable rates impossible to accomplish.
Just Energy: mid-peak and peak periods are too close in price
London Property Management Association: The Board has no comprehensive, long-term, province-wide data upon which it can evaluate the impact of the current TOU pricing structure.
Ontario Non Profit Housing Assoc:The report did not specifically examine or report on the potential impact of TOU pricing on low-income households in any of its case studies.
Pollution Probe: While Ontario’s peak demand occurs on hot summer afternoons on a province-wide basis, it is important to remember that northern Ontario actually experiences its peak electricity demand during the winter instead
Ontario Power Workers Union: The policy decision that embarked Ontario on the smart metering and TOU pricing path was made in the absence of any robust research on the costs and benefits of this undertaking.....the increase in intermittent renewable supply that requires fossil-fuelled generation back-up for system reliability...has narrowed the RPP TOU price ratio and the increase in intermittent renewable supply contemplated in Ontario’s Long Term Energy Plan will exacerbate the problem by further reducing this differential.
School Energy Coalition: the Report proposes that certain costs be assumed to arise only in the summer (wind and solar), when it is clear that is not actually the case
Vulernable Energy Consumers Coalition: since consumers typically need to make investments in either equipment or lifestyle changes in order to affect load shifting, if the TOU differentials overstate the benefits then the cost of the investments made to achieve load shifting are likely to exceed the associated benefits, resulting in a loss in economic efficiency.
Mr Honey:...nearly half of my annual consumption is for heat
Mr Reynolds: Delivery, regulatory, and debt retirement charges on Ontario electricity bills are based on cumulative consumption during the billing period, and are therefore are not affected by customer efforts in shifting demand.....This means that residential customers are able to impact less than one-half of their electricity bills by leveraging TOU rates.
Mr Weir: TOU pricing will not reduce electricity use and this is evidenced by the Brattle Group stating there is no pricing that will benefit anything unless more studies/pilots are completed. We are now entering the 7th year of "Smart Meter/TOU" roll-out without a definitive answer.
All the respondents brought up great points that I think have left the OEB scratching it's collective head because it's just another example as to how messed up things really are.
Advocacy Centre for Tenants Ontario: The Board should not proceed with the roll-out of TOU pricing to low-income customers before a comprehensive examination of this vulnerable sector’s energy use characteristics and the most effective ways to reduce their energy use without putting these individuals in financial or physical risk
Consumers Council of Canada: Moving all of the solar and wind costs, for example, to peak is not consistent with how those resources are run. The Council is concerned that arbitrarily increasing the peak price would unfairly increase the cost burden for those that cannot shift their load.
Direct Energy: To successfully implement time of use pricing and achieve targeted demand reduction goals, Ontario must first, integrate all generation costs into the wholesale price, and then, match the time of use cost with individual consumer loads....Without such a reform, time of use rate setting will not be able to fairly allocate the costs of peaking generation to peaking consumption; exacerbating existing consumer inequities and making the Board’s mission to guarantee just and reasonable rates impossible to accomplish.
Just Energy: mid-peak and peak periods are too close in price
London Property Management Association: The Board has no comprehensive, long-term, province-wide data upon which it can evaluate the impact of the current TOU pricing structure.
Ontario Non Profit Housing Assoc:The report did not specifically examine or report on the potential impact of TOU pricing on low-income households in any of its case studies.
Pollution Probe: While Ontario’s peak demand occurs on hot summer afternoons on a province-wide basis, it is important to remember that northern Ontario actually experiences its peak electricity demand during the winter instead
Ontario Power Workers Union: The policy decision that embarked Ontario on the smart metering and TOU pricing path was made in the absence of any robust research on the costs and benefits of this undertaking.....the increase in intermittent renewable supply that requires fossil-fuelled generation back-up for system reliability...has narrowed the RPP TOU price ratio and the increase in intermittent renewable supply contemplated in Ontario’s Long Term Energy Plan will exacerbate the problem by further reducing this differential.
School Energy Coalition: the Report proposes that certain costs be assumed to arise only in the summer (wind and solar), when it is clear that is not actually the case
Vulernable Energy Consumers Coalition: since consumers typically need to make investments in either equipment or lifestyle changes in order to affect load shifting, if the TOU differentials overstate the benefits then the cost of the investments made to achieve load shifting are likely to exceed the associated benefits, resulting in a loss in economic efficiency.
Mr Honey:...nearly half of my annual consumption is for heat
Mr Reynolds: Delivery, regulatory, and debt retirement charges on Ontario electricity bills are based on cumulative consumption during the billing period, and are therefore are not affected by customer efforts in shifting demand.....This means that residential customers are able to impact less than one-half of their electricity bills by leveraging TOU rates.
Mr Weir: TOU pricing will not reduce electricity use and this is evidenced by the Brattle Group stating there is no pricing that will benefit anything unless more studies/pilots are completed. We are now entering the 7th year of "Smart Meter/TOU" roll-out without a definitive answer.
All the respondents brought up great points that I think have left the OEB scratching it's collective head because it's just another example as to how messed up things really are.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010
Smart Meter Data Collector
Here is an example of a Smart Meter data collector that was installed by Hydro One. In this particular neighbourhood, all the power lines are underground, so Hydro One does not have a utility pole of its own to attach a data collector to. This particular installation piggy backs on the meter serving a Bell Canada DSLAM for high speed Internet. This is a good place to install this since there is no homeowner to complain about this ugly thing attached to the side of their home.
This data collector relays all data via standard cellular telephone technology, and it supports almost every cellular technology, so Hydro One isn't tied to a particular cell phone provider. Must be some kind of cell phone bill!
Saturday, April 10, 2010
TOU Portal Link Removed
Today I noticed that the link to view my TOU portal on the HydroOne secure website is gone. Hopefully they've taken it down to fix it and it will be back soon!
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Friday, April 9, 2010
TOU Portal Discrepancy

I've been having a lot of fun playing with the HydroOne TOU portal. I can even download all the raw data directly into Excel. I've been doing some analysis and will post it here in the coming weeks.
It would be nice if I had this level of data available for some of the commercial buildings I manage energy in! It would make my job a lot easier.
Unfortunately, I noticed the daily graph appears to be incorrect, because the period totals of the hourly graph don't match the totals of the various periods throughout the day. Oops. I think it might be a daylight savings time issue. Good thing they aren't billing me based on TOU rates yet. I sent an email to HydroOne about it and somebody did acknowledge my message, and forwarded it on to the webmaster. Stay tuned.
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
First look at smart meter TOU Data from HydroOne

So if there is going to be any mercy with time-of-use (TOU) rates, it's that you'll get to see a minimum of one month of hourly use data, so you can see how much extra you'll be paying, or how bizarre the changes you'll have to make to your lifestyle will be to try and minimize the damage. To be fair, for something running 24/7/365, the cost will not be much more, perhaps 2 or 3%, as the current TOU rate structure averages out. But if you consistently need to run equipment during peak periods (oh, like the stove), then you're in a very unfortunate situation. This is especially troubling for the poor and retired folk. I wonder if Dalton McGuinty's mom has electric heat...
We're putting up a clothesline when we move into our new home in June.
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